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Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

peteformation — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:16:50 -0000

Thks for the valuable information.

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x-dawn — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59:51 -0000

how do I request for cpm or cpc ads? Can I change it or it depends on advertizer?

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Planet Lowyat — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:53:39 -0000

The best thing is you can use analytics features in Nuffnang.

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ZeMMs — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:14:34 -0000

Im not sure why I don't put either Nuffnang or Advertlets ads on my blog.. probably I'm just not the blogging-for-profit kind of person who would do just about anything to get money out of blogging. But I do respect & support their effort of creating local ads network.. it may not be profitable to some, but I'm sure both of the programs will evolve over time.... they just need some time to adjust and hey afterall, they're both still very new so give em a break ;)

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

chew — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:10:26 -0000

I'm curious to find out how much both pay to bloggers based on CPC and CPM. Anyone can help out? Guess we should all do some checking before we give premium space over to others

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

adyy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:46:54 -0000

erm.. i dont know about you guys. but my blog www.senikata.com earn good money from both. Especially from advertlets.

erm... i kinda agree with LCF on "Ratio of my local visitors". Maybe there is a truth behind it. because 80% of my traffics are from Malaysian and I think advertlets & nuffnang, do count where the traffic coming from; in their payout calculation.

just my 2 cents :P

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Jayce Ooi — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:46:54 -0000

I am still happy with Advertlets. But thinking to drop Nuffnang soon. Nuffnang does not perform well. No real revenue at all. Advertlets is better Nuffnang for the moment. Anyway, AdSense the best of all. :)

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

nakaltitude — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:04:47 -0000

I got average RM 100 each month from Advertlets and for Nuffnang i only get around RM25 per month. But it very hard to get ads for Nuffnang no sure why? But I'm very happy with advertlets.

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Zul — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:31:56 -0000

Someone needs to break google's domination. Even if it doesn't work for us, there's no harm supporting local products, rite?

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menj — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:54:30 -0000

Nuffnang is working quite well for me across my blog(s), its not as much compared to paid postings or even Google Adsense but I still get some earnings out of it. So I will be sticking to it for a long time yet ;)

- MENJ

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

LcF — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:52:43 -0000

@Derex: No, HongKiat is my guest blogger.

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Dexter — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:55:37 -0000

Just a question...

Does Liewcf.com and hongkita.com is the same owner?

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Freethinker — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:21:44 -0000

Walau..this post still on going one ar

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Chong — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:22:10 -0000

@TenthOfMarch
Glad that the weather is clear now. It's nothing big. After all, I'm just one of those desperate publishers. ;-)

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Friedbeef — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:09:30 -0000

If you're going to have a CPM as default for all campaigns. CPC should be opt in. Just to manage publisher expectations. I wasn't happy with CPC Image ads. CPC needs to be contextual in my opinion.

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JennyHow — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:12:11 -0000

my conclusion: nuffnang & advertlets are for desperate ppl who have never earn even rm2 online before.

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TenthOfMarch — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:43:57 -0000

@Chong
Please accept my sincere apology for (almost) lining you up with the ranks of "the devil(s)". I should pay attention to mybloglog a little more. I've seen you around before.

I'm getting confused with all the g, s, m and h. If I understand you correctly, you were hoping m will write a post at s's official blog to clear up rumours (as in DevilsAdvocate/Amateur/Reaymond/ENUFFisENUFF is connected to m?). If that's what you mean, tough luck. I doubt m will ever do that. m will probably want the story of the "devil(s)" to fade away. Why would m want to bring it up himself?

Imagine what will happen if everyone starts searching for "those IP addresses". Tommy, Willy, Jishie, Mounster, etc might come up. Oppssss... ;-)

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Chong — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:12:46 -0000

Humble or strange? I think frustrated would be a better word. Sometimes we're upset when the companies do not meet our expectation. And who are the ones that make us to have this kind of expectation?

"Our record for fastest answered support enquiry is 43 secs, and currently the average time it takes for a question to be answered is about 3.8 hours." "run by a team that sleeps very little" I submitted a ticket and it took two weeks to receive reply. Worse, the reply showed that the person did not know what's wrong with the system and just replied for the sake of replying. I've decided not to submit ticket since.

It's funny sometimes when our referral data and keywords (which considered priceless by most of us) are collected but it shows only the recent five referrals and keywords. Many other free stat services are doing great jobs at analytics (showing data for months and even years in professional ways for free with graphs and charts) and we don't really need another stat to do the same thing. Thanks for your attempt to help but if we want stat we will install scripts from professional stat companies. Please, remove the stat tracking with the hope that the scripts will load faster.

"[T]he poll will undergo some changes soon, like color customization... and also we will start running sponsored polls - where instead of the default demographics poll, bloggers can run sponsored polls for advertisers and earn." Does the word 'soon' carry the meaning 'months'? Forget about the sponsored poll since it is now dying.

Unknown country in the stat is a problem that need to be solved as soon (months?) as possible. Other stat shows me that I've more visitors from Malaysia and it makes me to believe that some visitors from unknown country originate from Malaysian visitors.

Ooops, sorry for voicing my baseless arguments, just discovered these:
"[W]e are currently in our Beta Testing stage"
"[B]eta 1.50"

After all, they did good jobs which really impressed us: organizing blogger gatherings, helping YF (the blogger) and the most impressive one would be pitching Malaysian and Singaporean advertisers to try online advertising (to be specific, blog advertising). Many local offline advertisers, when come to online advertising, are clueless and have no confidence to try.

Ooops, just discovered the infamous, unprofessional and childish comparison chart has been removed. It is nothing wrong to do a comparison chart if you do it the professional way. One example of professional comparison chart is available here: http://pmetrics.performanci...

One trivia thing to ponder about: if all bloggers are to rely g to organize gathering, s will do the same thing. Do we really prefer to see future gatherings sponsored or organized by only either one? What if we bloggers organize events or gatherings ourselves and 'force' (he he he) both of them to sponsor so both of them will compete i.e. offer attractive benefits to win our confidence? Also, whoever that uses dirty (or strategic?) tactics like exclusivity will lose us. ::evil grin:: Currently, both use exclusivity to weaken each other. Now we will see who drops exclusivity first.

@TenthOfMarch
I do have a blog related to technology which I wrote my s review there but I've decided to abandon the blog since life has been and will certainly be very hectic for me in these months. I hope to try paid reviews at the blog after these busy months so I don't want anyone to read or subscribe to that kind of blog -- blog full of paid reviews, paid links in the posts etc.

I put both g and s on one of my blog (education related). It's no point (at least for me) to attract LcF's visitors to my blog since they are probably interested in tech / make money online only. I personally (just personal point of view) think that leaving comment with signature link to own non-related, non-personal blog is trying to spam. I hate spam, really. Ooops, I hope I'm not spamming LcF's blog with my lengthy comments!

LcF knows who I am since I left my email address when submitting the comments. m and h might remember me since I have had a few email exchanges with them before and after joining g and s.

I don't want to be featured at your blog with the names DevilsAdvocate/Amateur/Reaymond/ENUFFisENUFF although I leave comment at 4.00 am. (Spending 4 hours to write this comment, as stupid as usual) Now if m is to write a blog post at s official blog clearing up rumours, I'll be the first to believe, really. Clear or not clear?

*Also, if anyone like, you're welcome to republish my whole comment at your blog since I'd like to copyright this comment under no right reserved.

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

TenthOfMarch — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:54:20 -0000

@Chong
For someone who has left the third longest comment (after Timothy and Josh Lim) without even leaving your blog URL, it's either strange or humble. You did mention you wanted to publish it in your blog, no? Why shy away your URL?

If I were you, I would have published the post in my blog and come in here leaving a comment with my URL. Hopefully that will bring in some traffic to my blog. Who doesn't need some extra traffic, especially from liewcf.com?

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weirdoux — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:01:36 -0000

i'm still support both of this malaysia ads company. if many of you decided to "take out" the ads from your own blog, that a very good decision.

why?
it's simple. if all malaysian bloggers don't want to put the image ads in their blog, i'm volunteered myself to use that image ads ALONE!!!

then you will see my "BIG" cheques every month!
hah...hah...hah...!

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Chong — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:58:32 -0000

Nuffnang has just lowered the minimum payout to RM50.00! This is definitely good news to low-earnings bloggers including me. Like most bloggers, I hope Nuffnang will allow publisher to opt out of CPC because it was a disaster (at least for me)!

Hmm, due to 'competition', Nuffnang launched CPC ads without proper planning? Advertlets, on the other hand, neglected its hybrid polling system that it once prided itself due to no competition in polling system?

For CPM, Nuffnang pays for page views from Malaysia only. But what about the visits from unknown country that Nuffnang doesn't know where do the visits originate from? Isn't it unfair to bloggers (in terms of earnings, of course) if the unknown hits actually originate from Malaysia? I would suggest Nuffnang to update their IP database with the latest set of data since the percentage of unknown hits is, ahem, very, ahem, not low.

"[Our IP address database] is updated regularly and is so sharp that we can even track the longtitude [sic] and latitude of each IP address." Perhaps the unknown hits are originating from other planets?

Advertlets, do you really have the technology to detect how high the ad banner is placed in order to calculate the earnings? Or, (sorry for my stupidity) do you manually check how high or low the banner is placed?

"[B]loggers who put their sidebar ads higher, will get paid more!" Is this true?

By the way, Advertlets does not provide crucial stat like how many clicks and impressions! I still have no clue how I generated xx cents from the banner since placing it for weeks. Luckily Advertlets created a daily earnings page for publisher since a few days ago but the data is still not up-to-date.

Do you mind to lower the minimum payout to RM50.00 so that I can immediately cash out the money that I earned from the blogvertorial
about Advertlets? Please provide an option for us to opt out of CPC or CPA. Are these possible?

*This comment was originally written to be put on my blog. However, after realizing no one will read my blog except myself, I posted it here. Hope LiewCF doesn't mind. Feel free to delete it since it's just my RM0.02 worth.

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Irene — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:15:11 -0000

Ah well.. CPM or CPC, it's the choice of the advertisers. I don't think there is a need for Advertlets or Nuffnang to tell people that their ads they are serving is CPM or CPC. Well... it's just me. As for my Adverlets, I'm getting random CPM and CPC ad at the same time. However for Nuffnang, it's always the same old Exabytes(my web host that kept going up and down non stop everyday, yet kept giving out promotion ask people to subscribe to them is irking me, how on earth to show ppl good service when the sites hosted on their server kept going down?) which very obvious I know is CPC.

Both companies are working their arse out to find advertisers and to expand their networks and this is M'sia, most won't want to invest in CPM *sigh*

As for earning, I earn few times more in Advertlets than in Nuffnang. Still I'm not giving up both of them, even 1 cent is also money, as long that they don't suspend my account like what adsense does(pissed me off).

Keep it up Advertlets and Nuffnang! I think people will be saying me sitting on the fence. I admit I am :)

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

jimmychin — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:42:04 -0000

Wat i know is... My first cheque is RM100++ from Advertlets...
I will cashout another cheque end of the month from Advertlets....
It's about RM300++

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

MH CHAN — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:35:38 -0000

Hi all,

Been using advertlets for about a month and i must say, the earning is quite little despite giving it my best ad space. Hence, I took it down and give another program a chance, Agloco.

Nuffnang is purely, in my case, CPC which I do not fancy.

Re: Why I drop Advertlets and Nuffnang

Maria — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:30:55 -0000

You are probably correct, the image add is also not working quite good for me too.